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Evidence they've heard that this defense strategy all along has been to show tamerlan tsarnaev was more the mastermind of this than dzhokhar tsarnaev. >> ron mott in boston thanks for that. a cool new show premiering tonight, stars a familiar face who usually makes you laugh but now he's about making you think. cal penn in the guest spot. >> excuse me sir, do you happen to know how to get to the white castle in trail hill from here? >> yeah take the 35 left and the turnpike south and there you are. >> you may recall seeing acting cal penn in "harold and kumar" but cal is also a serious and t...

Know about that case. >> greg: i think people first hear about this story they are shocked at the sweep of it. there is millions and millions and millions of data. what do you compare that too? what is the other option? do you just make people feel better by only looking at some data and not all of it? >> well my view on this having worked on my book for more than a year and having this, it's very simple. data and technology is very powerful tool for protecting national security. it would be hard to argue that we -- i think would expect our leaders to use these tools if they weren't using them...

Know about that case. >> greg: i think people first hear about this story they are shocked at the sweep of it. there is millions and millions and millions of data. what do you compare that too? what is the other option? do you just make people feel better by only looking at some data and not all of it? >> well my view on this having worked on my book for more than a year and having this, it's very simple. data and technology is very powerful tool for protecting national security. it would be hard to argue that we -- i think would expect our leaders to use these tools if they weren't using them...