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Reporter -- hang on we just lost them. we have geraldo rivera also standing by also in baltimore tonight. we'll go to him first. all right. hang on. we'll go to dave kincheon. he is in philly tonight. what is going on, dave? >> sean good evening to you. we are here at the central detective division of philadelphia. we're here with the philadelphia is baltimore rally. these are folks from philadelphia and they say that they're showing support for the family of freddie gray. but i have to tell you, they have a message for police. i got to tell you. there have been a lot of racial attacks here. i...

Work. dave is going to turn to his left and see all the way up the street where we're going to walk back up and see all of the riot police that have now gathered to be ready to clear this corner. so sir, you're walking up. can i talk to you, sir? i'm leland. how are you? >> proud. >> what do you think of the curfew right now? at 10:00, you're heading home? >> yeah i'm heading home. >> you're good with it? >> i'm fine with it. >> now you heard about this new evidence that has come out with these leaks about how freddie gray may have died right? >> yes. >> what do you think about it? >> i don't ...

>> all lives matter. the purpose of black lives matter is to address black issues. when it becomes all lives matter it takes the attention away from black issues. >> reporter: let me ask you, if it turns out the "washington post" report is true according to the medical examiner that freddie gray's injuries were self-inflicted if it's true would you accept that? >> that still doesn't answer the -- >> reporter: that's the question. could you accept that? >> it goes beyond that. >> dave let me ask you another question. >> if we go back to the michael brown case the narrative from day one, michael...

Questions. number one, what about the stand-down order. and we're going to go ahead and keep a shot of the congressman leaving. number one, what about the standdown order that was given to police? he says that he doesn't know anything about it. number two, i asked him the question that has been going around a lot, sean the question that you've been asking a lot as well which is all of the lewters and the rioters and everybody else that we saw in the streets of baltimore for so long that when a number of members of the media, yourself myself included call them thug. we were attacked. i said to ...

To the state's attorney for a grand jury. and they worry that like michael brown -- >> geraldo, we've got to take a break here geraldo. >> the same thing will happen here. sean you got it. >> we turn back to philly. and wtfx reporter dave kinchen is back with us. dave it looks like you got hit before. are you okay? >> what's that? >> you look like you had gotten hit before. are you okay? >> reporter: yeah yeah i'm okay. i'm all right. i tell you, this has been a pretty crazy situation here. there's at least 1,000 people here. this rally is called philly is baltimore. they say they're lobbying ...