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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:26:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:26:00

$1,500 he owed to his kids from the first set of trusts. but here believed the detectives was the heart of the motive for murder. debbie, if she hadn't disappeared was about to expose all that in court. >> you steal $300,000 and you are about to be exposed by it -- >> by a woman you despise? >> pretty good motive. >> certainly another piece of the puzzle. >> there is another strange piece to the puzzle. remember the mess around debbie's desk, documents scattered everywhere were the records from the first set of trusts the one only debbie controlled. >> there was $166,000 in those accounts. >> ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:35:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:35:00

Behavior, nothing to suggest he had been up all night committing a terrible crime. >> so the things that convinced me about his innocence aren't there to convince them. i think they are defending my mom so much so that it's like they're going to point to the most obvious suspect. >> chelsa isn't the only one in this small town who believes dave hawk is innocent. >> i believe what he says, that he had nothing to do with her disappearance. and presumed death. >> sandy brown is dave's longtime pastor and friend. >> this person who is portrayed as such a monster just simply isn't. he is a man who ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:44:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:44:00

>> this guy allegedly stealing from his kids, saying bad things about this sympathetic victim and all these things being widely played in the press. >> if there ever was a case for change of venue, this must be it, said the defense. after all, almost everybody seeped to have heard the accusations about dave and every time he had a court appearance purple clad friends of debbie crowded into the public gallery. in fact, during jury selection said attorney coleman he heard jurors tell the judge they had already decided dave hawk was guilty. >> the judge asked them, if i order you to set those opi...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:25:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:25:00

Well, this was actually the second set of trusts established for the children. several years before a judge caught dave's hand in the cookie jar of the first trust which listed both dave and debbie as trustees. dave was removed of trustee of those funds. during the divorce dave's father gave him sole control of a second quite generous trust fund. but when investigators ran the numbers on that second fund administered only by dave. >> basically there was supposed to be several hundred thousand dollars in each account, instead there was a couple thousand dollars. he had been living off it up to ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:29:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180812:09:29:00

>> absolutely. >> what did he say? >> it's not going to -- >> an aha moment? well, maybe, not quite. >> early on i thought he is never going to stop until she's dead. it is going to go on his whole life. i never in my life thought he would kill her. never. >> it seemed quite suspicious. most people in town seemed to have made up their minds about dave hawk, but one of them was not the d.a. >> we kept pushing and pushing and we kept sitting back. >> did the cops have it wrong? dave hawk's longtime pastor thought so. coming up -- >> this person who is portrayed as such a monster just simply is...