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Neo-nazis and white supremacists saying there was violence on many sides. then he condemned them in that prewritten speech. then he went back off the rails in that kwield press conference. why does he think there's wiggle room when he's talking about white supremacists? what is he not getting? i'm a little dense. explain it to me more. >> i think he is very loyal to his supporters. and listen, a lot of people in that crowd, there were people dressing up in donald trump golf uniforms. i think he really doesn'tment to alienate that base and while he thinks there's bad dudes on all sides, i think...

He is missing a home run opportunity to send the message violence is bad. period. kkk is really bad. republicans have more of an obligation to call that out because those are some of his supporters in that crowd. and i think trump should be able to give a speech that does ultimately talk about violence on both sides, but the white supremacists are different because they are mimicking a movement that is responsible for the murder and extermination of an entire people, millions of people. the antifa crowd is not mimicking a movement that is responsible for an ethnic cleansing. that is what makes...

Since then with antifa, you look at really what's happened since charlottesville, a lot of people are saying, in fact, a lot of people have actually written, gee, trump might have a point. i said you've got some very bad poem on the ear side also which is true. but we had a great conversation. >> chris, why? >> why? >> i mean, that -- >> well, okay. i've spent some time thinking about this. the only possible answer, don, is that he is extremely driven to prove he is right in visit wale -- well, take away the virtually. in every circumstance, because politically speaking, this makes no sense to...