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I wonder if maybe it's the same incompetent bureaucrats that let b.p. run the rig that are saying the other rigs are ok. we don't know. even if we can't use this $20 billion fund legally to pay for unemployment benefits, i'm telling you, politically there's no way this is going to get dumped on u.s. taxpayers. >> we should mention already, there are plans to dump some of the costs on to taxpayers and that spending plan, hidden in that spending plan that didn't pass last week was a provision to pay for cleanup of the gulf. now, that's something that the president and b.p. said b.p. should pay f...

The wages, low though they may be are far higher than what we're getting in mexico and elsewhere. if we need the labor, why not have it in guest worker programs? if we need the people, bring them in legally. instead of going around saying that these people pay them more, should they be here? if so, have a program to do it legally. >> do you believe in that ad or not? >> no, i think you've got it exactly backward, david. i do believe in the ad because the problem is right now, you've got a two tiered system. employers who obey the law have to pay minimum wage. others don't pay minimum wage so t...

Do we react by them saying we're going to shut down every airport? >> they did after 9/11 for only three days. for six months, david, what is that -- this is after the fact posturing to act tough because you weren't on the stick immediately dealing with b.p. in the right way. b.p. should pay and pay dearly. >> although, neil, we do shut -- when there's a crash, if there are other planes that have a similar technical problem, we close down -- we ground those planes that have the same kind of device. shouldn't we just target those rigs in the gulf that have the same target as the rigs that blew ...