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Short of opening a package or an envelope? >> the postal service has very, very sophisticated technologies in detecting a are a variety of biological weapons. in addition, i'm assuming they would do even x-ray scan powder in envelope and that would be necessitate a next level inspection which would put it on a field test and that's probably how they got the positive result for ricin. >> yeah. we were speaking with mike emanuel a moment ago. go back to mike in a moment here. if this man has been arrested, then his case is closed. but it's not clear whether or not there are other envelopes or pa...

Southern district u.s. attorney's office. that was gigantic. but then he got bigger because lanny said look, he has stuff he can tell him if he wants to talk to him. >> katie: just kidding. doesn't have any stuff to tell because he lied about it too bad. brian: we have to find out the real story. you don't just get that wrong. steve: that's the real story. made it up. brian: why would you make it up knowing the political ramifications of what he said indicated indicate that is his goal avenging hillary clinton's loss. steve: maybe again he wanted some sort of deal from the mueller team. my guy...

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