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Circumstantial evidence suggests they would have needed american expertise to do that? >> yes. that is certainly the likely result. >> that was oregon senator jeff merkley making the point that david frum was making in the previous segment. join us is democratic congressman jim himes. congressman himes, your reaction to what senator merkley said today? >> well, the senator raises all the right questions and it's a remarkable thing because as the days go by and as groups like facebook and twitter and social media companies really begin to look and report the incredible breadth of the russian ef...

Prepared text or not even pretend to meet the bear minimal standard for an american president. i don't think people would have fallen over themselves to compliment him in puerto rico, but i think it would have been more superior to what we saw from him. >> david, that's such an interesting point that puerto ricans, they didn't feel the effort. >> from his first remarks from the white house after the las vegas shooting, that also is very false. and maybe the thing we're saying whereby, look if you're going to be insin sar, maybe can you work hard at it? can you fake sincerity a little more? >> ...

Have already been proven to a large degree and that was kind of interesting and but we still have to see what happens with this investigation in the months ahead. >> david fromm, i can understand why the chairman might want to take that position today in this public discussion. he might see himself and i think a chairman in this situation would see himself as in effect a judge in the middle of a trial, a juror in the middle of a trial. and jurors and judges in the middle of trials do have opinions about the evidence and they do have conclusions about the evidence during trials. but they just n...

Ahead. >> david fromm, i can understand why the chairman might want to take that position today in this public discussion. he might see himself and i think a chairman in this situation would see himself as in effect a judge in the middle of a trial, a juror in the middle of a trial. and jurors and judges in the middle of trials do have opinions about the evidence and they do have conclusions about the evidence during trials. but they just never say anything about that until all of the evidence is in and is that possibly the way you see the burr position today? >> look. you can't unsay somethin...

Targeting occur? who provided the insight to russia on how to target -- >> are you saying, senator, are you saying that the circumstantial evidence suggests they would have needed american expertise to do that? >> yes. that is certainly the likely result. >> that was oregon senator jeff merkley making the point that david frum was making in the previous segment. join us is democratic congressman jim himes. congressman himes, your reaction to what senator merkley said today? >> well, the senator raises all the right questions and it's a remarkable thing because as the days go by and as groups l...