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Not gone as far as kushner wanted but if they decided to change strategy you might find kushner ends up becoming closer to the president and his thought process and his philosophy for how to do this prevails. >> it's going to be interesting to see particularly this week if the president hires true outside counsel, not his counsel he's had mark kasowitz for a long time but a washington hand who forces him to shut down and allow the investigation to proceed without his interference. that will be the thing to watch for. >> david, can i make a prediction? >> chris? >> he won't he a, thank you. >> ...

>> and chris cillizza, it was jon meacham who commented over the weekend not since preworld war i have we seen a resurgent russia, germany talk about going it alone and more passivist and isolationist united states and we know how that turned out. you're arguing in fact the national security area foreign affairs is where donald trump may have his biggest influence yet. negative influence, positive influence or do we know? >> we don't know. like many things with trump, i think we know he's willing to do and say things other politicians and presidents have not previously been willing to say and ...