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Beast, sam stein, columnist and associate editor for "the washington post, david ig nampblts go -- david ignacious. in a few minutes, washington will look different than it has over the past two years. house democrats armed with subpoena power and new-found political capital plan to hold president trump to account. this morning it remains shut down for the 13th straight day and the standoff could last for weeks. so frame this moment for us. >> well, if you just take a snapshot of what today looks like, it would be very easy to say that this is the crossing of two paths, the coming not only dem...

Public life. it's corrosive to our public life and it gives a lot of -- it's a relief to our enemies to see it. because that's something they really haven't been able to peer inside and i think that disruption of unity, you know, gives hope that they can divide us in difficult times or times of crisis. i think it's very dangerous. >> david has been talking about the president's view of syria. yesterday he said was nothing more sand and death. talk about that very ignorant reading of history and i say that objectively and is very ignorant reeding of history when it comes to afghanistan and the ...

Original roots. >> well, and david ignacious, one thing that frustrated me about mitt romney in the past, a guy who i always had tremendous respect for even if his 2012 campaign frustrated me a great deal, but the one thing that always frustrated me about mitt romney was that he was so conservative with a small c. he never got close to the guardrails. he was data driven. and never took these sort of chances. i think that's why i found the op-ed from two days ago not only remarkable but very hopeful not only for the republican party but for this republic. >> i agree with you, joe. romney has co...

Strategist and msnbc political analyst susan delfrisio is us with and editor for "the washington post," david ignacious and we have jonathan kapart and host of casey d.c. on msnbc, casey hunt. and director of domestic policy studies at stanford university and research fellow at the hoover institution, lon he chen. he was a senior strategist for the 2012 mitt romney presidential campaign. and, joe, we've got day 13 of the shutdown now. how do you see things playing out? any possibility of a deal or more chaos? >> it's not looking that way right now. you know, meika, we've seen gri looks over pr...

And with one remark on television the president kind of swept that away and said they were right to do it. really a stunning reading of history that is just completely wrong. >> david? >> tom, i want to ask you what effect you think this has on young officers in our military. i think of the young colonel trying to destroy isis in syria. what does he tell that commander of what it must be like for a senior commander in afghanistan today listening to the president bad mouth the deployment of the forces. what do you think those people take away? what is the effect on their sense of solidarity and...