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>> you know, it was but --. >> i mean, you had this good thing you're goin' to and you wanted to --. >> right. >> -- have more of a life. but yet you're -- i can see how much you liked --. it was really wasn't --. >> -- being in law enforcement. >> yeah, it really wasn't that difficult, though, because i just felt like it was definitely -- i was in a point in my life when i needed to make that change and i wanted to make that change, and i presumed that i would remain close with these guys, that they would always be my friends and that they would always have my back if i ever needed 'em. >> re...

>> you know, it was but --. >> i mean, you had this good thing you're goin' to and you wanted to --. >> right. >> -- have more of a life. but yet you're -- i can see how much you liked --. it was really wasn't --. >> -- being in law enforcement. >> yeah, it really wasn't that definitely -- i was in a point in my life when i needed to make that change and i wanted to make that change, and i presumed that i would remain close with these guys, that they would always be my friends and that they would always have my back if i ever needed 'em. >> reporter: by september 2000, the camms' seemed to be ...