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Means they are against the tariffs. that is really hurting every day workers. it will start affecting them. people in their pocketbook come in september and i think at this point trump can say everything he wants but when people feeling there's no difference in their paycheck and they are scared and they hear these headlines, that should scare the president and also another thing is that when the reasons the economy is so unstable right now and especially some of the big indicators like the dow is because donald trump is so unstable. that scares him. >> susan is touching on a bit here with a q...

Chance we will get -- with the market want to see is the tariff battle to end. we are getting closer to that. the federal reserve is looking more relaxed about tightening the money supply. that wage growth is great, people coming in off the sidelines. thinking they can get a job. these are the kind of things. ironically, within that, you see that we need more skilled laborers and day workers. and we need immigration reform. that goes into this conversation as well, and it would be a way to keep the economic ball rolling. >> mike: proof that tax cuts work, too. there's gotta be some connection ...

The tools in our tool box to do our jobs to the best of our abilities. >> tom, it seems a large portion of the country is unaware that the shutdown presents to every day workers, including fbi agents out in the street. so let me ask you, interpreters, people listening in to calls from overseas, translators, are they still on the job as fully as they were prior to the shutdown? >> so there's an amount of -- a small number of fbi agents and a small number of support employees, about 5,000 overall that are furloughed and not able to come to work. and what these people do are a myriad of different...

With democrats to open every part of the government except the part that have to do with border security. now you see senator graham and senator coons, in a sense, green. and people sitting down and writing letters and a bipartisan manner, willing to have meetings in a bipartisan manner. to me, it's great. the problem is that the president has made has line in the sand, and although speaker pelosi has her line in the sand, we have heard from the majority leader in the house. we have heard from senator coons, last time i was on a couple of days ago. talking about where they differ from some of ...

Most of them uneducated, illiterate, desperate day workers who are working for very, very little money every day. and the issue of bonded labor comes in to them in this way. these folks who are often in desperate economic circumstances, turn to their employers for small loans because someone in the family gets sick, because they have run out of money for food, for whatever reason. those loans never go down. the workers are never able to pay them off. they only get bigger. and it's an incredibly predatory practice that basically enslaves entire families. workers aren't able to pay off their loa...