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It's entitled to full effect as precedent as precedent of the court and judge kavanaugh believes very strongly in precedent and applied precedent in dc circuit. jillian: democrats want more documents to be released. what do you think they're hoping to find in documents that they want to see? >> well, i think the problem is that they've seen, i think, over 400,000 documents already and they haven't been able to find anything that's a problem or reason he shouldn't be confirmed. the reality here is judge kavanaugh is open book already. the public record is full of thousands of pages of that he's...

>> well, to paraphrase the senator, i know brett kavanaugh, i serve with brett kavanaugh, bret calf know is no anthony kennedy and i mean that in the healthy sense. i think he's a solid jurist, he's not the kind of guy who wants to be a celebrity judge. anthony kennedy enjoyed where people are courting you for the fifth vote. brett kavanaugh's audience was anthony scalia and the federal society believed the judge should not be the most dominant guy in the field. paul: interesting, bill, 300 opinions on dc circuit. >> right. paul: i can't think of a judge who has long track record, even scalia ...

In time. rob trob ruling was criticized by conservatives as well for not going far enough. that's interesting on the other side, there were four people that the president could choose from in this and it appears that the president chose probably the person that's going to be the hard toast get nominated, the hardest one to push through, what do you think? >> i think you hit on something that's true, but second to her, i think bret kavanaugh is going to have a lot of tough questions from both sides hardiman and kethledge were confirmed to seats with unanimous voting bipartisan support so it's g...

People should be encouraged by is all of the people who were on the list that president trump put out when he was still running for the presidency are incredibly established jurists very much in the mold of scalia much like nile gorsuch. word is that it has come down to 2 or 3 finalists. bret kavanaugh who sits on dc circuit, raymond kethledge on sixth circuit and amy cony barrett on the seventh court of appeals. all of them have their different qualifications and points in their order but may come down a bit to the president and which way he goes in terms of his connection with them when he m...

Another opinion on that. >> i agree, i think, since this is been going on since the 70s, it has been the rule of law. look at representative collins. she has already made this a hot button issue. as have several other moderate republicans. i don't think this is -- but, it is up to donald trump. is it critical important issue for his base. it is a tough one but i don't think we will get it through. and it faces a lot of criticism. >> i want to talk about brett kavanaugh. what if he said it was your number three pick. he was nominated in 2006 to the current position as a judge on the powerful co...