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To look at is decide whether they should further investigate andy mccabe potentially lying to investigators as you know in the report the scathing report that came out last week it said that andy mccabe had mislead and had lied to investigators and his former boss james comey on four different occasions including three times under oath. this is something that andy mccabe has denied. he never mislead investigators. they never mislead james comey but so basically now this is in the hands of the d.c. u.s. attorney's office to determine whether it should pursue criminal charges. >> what's mccabe s...

Report the scathing report that came out last week it said that andy mccabe had mislead and had lied to investigators and his former boss james comey on four different occasions including three times under oath. this is something that andy mccabe has denied. he never mislead investigators. they never mislead james comey but so basically now this is in the hands of the d.c. u.s. attorney's office to determine whether it should pursue criminal charges. >> what's mccabe saying in response? >> so his attorney came out with a statement to this saying although we believe the referral is unjustified ...

Director james comey are headed to congress today. the pledge of loyalty that the president denied he ever asked. we're getting new details on andrew mccabe, who is one step closer to possibly facing a criminal investigation. mccabe was fired last month, just days before retiring from the fbi after his 21 years at the agency. i have laura jarrett and pamela brown standing by. first you on andy mccabe. tell me more about this case. >> we have learned that the justice department inspector general has sent a criminal referral to the top prosecutor in the d.c. u.s. attorney's office on andrew mcca...

Cause, which has to be stated in writing. that's pretty iron-clad. but what if the doj or a president makes up a claim of misconduct to fire a special counsel? then what? i think we need to call in a heavy hitter. seth waxman was a federal prosecutor in one of the most prestigious offices in the country, serving 13 years in the d.c. u.s. attorney's office. he has been lead counsel in over 60 jury trials and is quite the prosecutorial expert to have. thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> so, seth, the rules prevent firing mueller for no reason. what if the trump administration t...

Lawyers would have been apoplectic about having that kind of interaction between the president and the attorney general. >> what about these recent reports that the president has apparently been meeting with potential nominees for u.s. attorney positions? you were a u.s. attorney in d.c., the d.c. u.s. attorney is one of the people who president obama -- president trump, excuse me, reportedly met with before he nominated her. >> unprecedented. the way it was done in the obama administration and the clinton administration as well and i think in the bush administrations, the highest-level person...