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Now they are in this mess and they can't see a way out of it. >> let me underscore what you are arguing here. let's look at the nbc "wall street journal" poll. it gives the president 31% of the blame for the shutdown. but the gop gets a whooping 53 % of the blame. again is that largely because republicans pursued this futile if not dilutional strategy to de fund or delay obamacare. they of course now have completely and utterly abandoned. >> it is in that poll i was talking about. i know you had a fox news poll that showed the opposite. the approval went from 31 to 38%. when in reality the foc...

Least understand the other side. i don't think the president understands what is going on with the level of anger in this country. the level of hatred in this country. and i don't think he sees it. >> you know, look, i think the worst possible outcome here, republicans made four offers, de-fund, delay, then they said all right, get rid of special exemptions. you would think it is a pretty reasonable offer. they said look, let's at least talk about it. the president, no, no, no, he calls boehner at 10:45 this morning and says i'm not going to negotiate. then goes on national television six hour...

Our campaign, my party is tulowitz devoted to helping them have a bright and prosperous future with more jobs and rising incomes. people come to this country from all over the world because it is the land of opportunity and that is slipping away under this president. and i didn't make that message as clear as i should have under my campaign. >> after four separate proposals under the house, de-fund, delay, eliminate exemptions and just conference, do you think they're doing the right thing by just holding the line now when the president won't talk? >> look, i'm with the republicans who want to...

Down the house. i think that is what is going on. by the way, i think it was real cherry-picking of the polls. the polls i have seen, the washington post had a poll out monday that came out 70% disapproval of republicans in congress, up seven point spoint -- >> 41% of the polls came out this week. but that is not the point. so you're saying -- it is just the opposite, interestingly to me, what you're saying is actually reality. republicans offered four proposals, they wouldn't even talk. >> why? >> first, de-fund, delay -- >> the law -- >> and then go to conference and talk. tucker, can the am...

Least understand the other side. i don't think the president understands what is going on with the level of anger in this country. the level of hatred in this country. and i don't think he sees it. >> you know, look, i think the worst possible outcome here, republicans made four offers, de-fund, delay, then they said all right, get rid of special exemptions. you would think it is a pretty reasonable offer. they said look, let's at least talk about it. the president, no, no, no, he calls boehner at 10:45 this morning and says i'm not going to negotiate. then goes on national television six hour...