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We seem to have knowledge of that. there are people who are unable to keep their yap shut when they are in the job. so you see these leaks in the new york styles. for the most part, i have one more question. what was the most clever dead drop place you heard of. a dead drop place is somewhere you would leave a package. >> dead drop is what you leave in place you have microfilm -- well, i am dating myself. basically it is what you leave down. it could be money or whatever it is. you are putting it someplace you hope it is not getting picked up. i am not'ing your question and there have been fas...

All that stuff. >> a lot of people say -- those old techniques are the best way to do it dead drops, brush passes. >> a dred drop is where you put something like on the ground what lan son did, you bury something, they get it and put money someplace else for you. that's a dead drop. if you're disciplined and follow your trade craft like hansen did for years and years, it's almost impossible to catch them without a source of information from somewhere else. what happens is after they've been here for a long type, they have kids and they get tired, and all that wears away at the discipline. >> y...

>> well, you know what? that has always worked very well and it continues to work. you're right. this is all very reminiscent of something we've seen 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. if it i want broke, don't fix it. sometimes we get so enamored with technology and hi-tech stuff that it breaks down and we have problems. if we will have something like a brush pass, like a dead drop, like a surveillancence detection route, all of these things have always worked. you know what we miss those because it's sort of out of the radar. >> i love it in the means or in the real life when there's a guy some dorky...

And it continues to work. you're right. this is all very reminiscent of something we've seen 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. if it i want broke, don't fix it. sometimes we get so enamored with technology and hi-tech stuff that it breaks down and we have problems. if we will have something like a brush pass, like a dead drop, like a surveillancence detection route, all of these things have always worked. you know what we miss those because it's sort of out of the radar. >> i love it in the means or in the real life when there's a guy some dorky guy working in the american embassy, it could be anybody...

Old techniques are the best way to do it dead drops, brush passes. >> a dred drop is where you put something like on the ground what lan son did, you bury something, they get it and put money someplace else for you. that's a dead drop. if you're disciplined and follow your trade craft like hansen did for years and years, it's almost impossible to catch them without a source of information from somewhere else. what happens is after they've been here for a long type, they have kids and they get tired, and all that wears away at the discipline. >> you know, i was finding out the other day, my fat...