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Fantastic things. today the talk is immigration, carl. >> reporter: the rest of the candidate are not going to engage in the donald trump and ben carson battle. they hope they explode one another and it has been immigration, particularly between marco rubio and ted cruz, who in all the national polls and in many of the early voting state polls, are in a deadlock race for third place. today, ted cruz -- we were over at the sunshine summit where the candidates are having a cattle call, and dashed over to this event for ted cruz. talking about immigration reform and calling for a more conservativ...

How much money they spent on it. given they spent tens of millions on the ads. trying to tear down romney and build up obama. we still see this as a deadlock race. so, depends. we don't know whether he is wasted the money or not. it's cliche. we won't know until election day. >> john: charles, president obama, the obama campaign spending money at least the romney campaign spending money at three-fifth the rate of the obama campaign. the obama campaign had a largeer figure. almost $600 million compared to under $500 million. is that an indication of what? >> i think kirsten is right. they see t...

Can say for donald trump is after the access hollywood tape the bottom did not fall out completely, and you have five and six seven points which is a big lead two weeks out, and if you go inside and look at the swing states, he is doing well in north carolina and good in florida, and pennsylvania, nevada, so many swing states where he is down so big, colorado, it's still going to be very, very difficult for him to win. he does have an issue he can use which is the obamacare story about twaeplpremiums going up 2d all things predicted by conservatives -- >> yeah, they are coming true with obamac...