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time of people demonstrating against the government. >> i still can't get over how many cameras are in china. jill dougherty, thank you so much, at the washington bureau for us today. thank you, jill. and now this -- here we go. hour two, welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. many holiday travelers are impacted at this hour by severe weather. also, police are investigating a student's sudden death. just how financially sound are the big banks? ted rowlands is riding an amtrack train to chicago. ted? >> reporter: brooke, we've been talking to people all morning long. we started at st. l...

Concerted evident to win. he didn't do well. going back to charles' point, i disagree with you. i think intensity matters. it matters in a significant way, especially in a republican primary campaign season. where voter intensity is what you need more than anything else. it doesn't mean it changes the value of the vote when it's cast but people who are not enthusiastic about casting votes don't go. you need voter intensity or people will stay home. >> bret: okay. we should point out as always congressman paul has a lot of intensity out there. we talk about him in the list of candidates. just e...

Concerted evident to win. he didn't do well. going back to charles' point, i disagree with you. i think intensity matters. it matters in a significant way, especially in a republican primary campaign season. where voter intensity is what you need more than anything else. it doesn't mean it changes the value of the vote when it's cast but people who are not enthusiastic about casting votes don't go. you need voter intensity or people will stay home. >> bret: okay. we should point out as always congressman paul has a lot of intensity out there. we talk about him in the list of candidates. just e...

So the u.s. is really still caught in this strategic trap of its own making. the saudis and the iranians will go after each other, whoever -- it doesn't matter whether the shah's in power or ahmadinejad's in power. it doesn't matter who's in power in saudi arabia. >> again, it's a north versus the south, so to speak. >> yes, sunni versus shia. >> yep. >> absolutely. >> all right, listen, congrats on the book. thanks on the conversation. andrew scott cooper, ladies and gentlemen. the book is "the oil king there's the cover. coming up on "hardball," chris matthews with all of the post-gop debate...