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And at the same time they didn't want to be the ones to get rid of candidates. i think it is very hard for a news organization to be the one at the beginning of a process to limit them. i mean this is a very -- we're all dealing with this. but we in the media. is it our job to tell which kant candidates are allowed on stage and which aren't? >> i agree with chuck. i've been saying for a lot of time now this is not the process. the process, divide it up two nights. open it up. don't even do the traditional debate format. allow a series f questions to candidate, no rebuttal. because you want to ...

General sockey is the traveling press secretary for the obama campaign. >> hi, andrea. >> looks beautiful down there. >> it is. hi there. >> first of all what's the mood inside the debate? how is he doing? >> he's energized. he's focused. he's energized, he's excited to be here. he's excited to get to new york tomorrow. and he's focused on having a good debate tomorrow morning. he's his own worst harshest critic i should say, and he's looked back at the tape from last week. he knows that he can do a better job communicating to the american people the choice and the selection, and i expect he'l...

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It might be the format that the debate commission has been groping for for years, that really works the best. it is not too loose so things get out of hand. but it is not so tight that it feels completely controlled. that will be interesting to see as well. >> joe, let me ask you, as somebody who has handled candidates on big debate nights, we forget -- they are human beings. are they likely to be nervous right now? >> i don't think so. look, they have both been through a lot. romney has been through a lot of tough debates and handled himself very well in the primaries. president obama has bee...

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