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And she deals with beckel every single solitary day -- >> it's a pleasure. >> it is. look, what i like more than anything is that i like cain is talking about major revisions in the tax code. newt is in his plan. perry is today in his plan. is this the result of herman cain 9-9-9? >> yes, because he blazed the trails. he went up in the pole because he had a simple tact reform plan that was pretty radical. he made progress doing that. he dragged everybody else with him and i think this is now front and center and the issue, the debate point in the election of 2012. i think it's a fabulous thing...

Correspondent, host of "the daily rundown" and political director. the president is on a campaign trip, a jobs trip, and it also has a lot to do with the political climate for 2012. >> it does, and you know, what's been interesting about watching the president on this trip a little bit is he's having to confront sort of the simultaneous issues that he has to deal with in the next 14 months. so he's trying to sell the jobs bill and trying to explain his call for the tax hikes and it will be a big debate point going in to the campaign season and had an interesting back and forth during an interv...

This section. that's separate they're saying. another argument is, here is to say that this government money right here doesn't get all mixed up in the pot and in the end incorrectry getting spent over here on this side for abortion services? a third debate point is late-term abortion. state legislators have been lowering how far into pregnancy an abortion can be performed from 20 to 22 weeks saying the fetus can feel pain. last month, by the way, 49 states had legislation. louisiana at that time wasn't one of them. you can see on this map today, as of today, you can put louisiana in there. a ...

Members of congress and their staffs would have to go into exchanges, and he thought, aha, they'll vote against it. and members of congress said, okay, fine we'll go on the exchanges. and now congress has the status that was totally different than any employer in the country. and there were real consequences. there are consequences to legislating based on what you think will score you a debate point. >> and in this case, what fred upton has done with this bill, is not to order that insurance companies reinstate all of these plans, but to give them the option of doing it. it makes it even worse...

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