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You question about trump cresting, who else had the same amount of energy on that stage? if you want to beat trump, you got to have momentum and get attention. no one else had it. he had stumbles but still came out as the king. >> he may have gotten -- >> i do think there are a couple people that better themselves. john kasich he's somebody that the crowd on his side and we know can really matter in a debate setting like this and second of all, he stood out on that stage more than i think many of the others. he had a couple good moments and that's what he needs to be doing. >> let's take a loo...

This going to have a detrimental effect on him? >> i think it's more than trump being trump. one of the things you can do in a debate is dispel a negative view about you. there were already stories floating out there. and so he had a chance to really overcome that or do something to ameliorate that but instead made it worse and not only do women make up half of the population they vote in greater numbers than men. so it didn't make any sense as a tactic. >> alan isn't that the tactic that has been working for him thus far, to never back down? >> never back down except there's a point of dimini...

Getting him ready. you guys were all getting ready for a night like tomorrow night. what do you think is going on behind the scenes and how high do you think they view the stakes? >> i think this debate is one of the most important primary debates that we have seen. people haven't anticipated a debate like this ever. even when you look back to '07 and '08 when president obama was running there will be moments that happened along the way where people would want to see how the candidates respond in the debate setting but nothing like this where donald trump is changing the whole thing. right now...

Finished products. the injuries, however, luckily are not life threatening. >> donald trump tells bill o'reilly he considers tomorrow's debate a big league deal but is mr. trump the real deal, someone who can go toe-to-toe in a formal debate setting? >> i think you have to be yourself. you have to be who you are. i don't have, i don't have any pollsters. i know the other folks have pollsters and everything has to be just perfect. the fact the pollsters often times they don't work. if they weren't any good, why aren't they running? i really want to be myself. martha: just wants to be himself. a...

It feels different and looks and smells different. it is different. the test of time is when we start to peel back the skin, what's underneath. what it stands for feels fresh, is fresh, i'm going going. no matter what hillary does, she has been in our consciousness since 1988. this moment in time is where we want that right or left turn politically. i don't know how hillary overcomes the country's need to make a move. >> let's move on to this. the senate ended the debate setting up a final vote on the bill later today. 12 republicans voted to advance the bill with every democrat and independen...