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There is nobody they don't feel like they have a prayer in iowa. frankly this is a place that you talk to some folks. they worry that the bush people worry that john could play better in a new hampshire the bush family has done well there before. if lindsay is sitting there, he is more likely to be a jeb voter. i think it really is a problem for jeb bush. >> i want to get you to weigh in on the debate situation. the first debate will be held in early august.

A candidate, i didn't take donors. i didn't attend fund-raisers. i went to the holocaust museum there to remind myself the nature of evil and why our bond with israel will be unbreakable. and then i went down to the border towns which had experienced missiles raining down from hamas, and i saw families there who showed me where missiles had come down near their children's bedrooms and i was reminded of what that would mean if those were my kids. >> so, kevin, when he did go on the attack there, the president sort of promptly put him in his place. last week when he went on the attack about liby...

Notice that both the republican and democratic lines score quite high. let's take a look. >> there is not enough -- the reason why the aei study, american intersurprises two study, tax policy center study, the reason they all say it's going to -- taxes are going to go up on the middle class, the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle class people, cut the health care deduction, middle class people. take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why -- >> great clip. explain to me why was vice president biden abl...

20 years or so. so, i wouldn't use biden as a bellwether. but i would use any president of the united states, given that information, would have done the same thing but i give great credit to the president. the point is though, do you use that in political campaigns to attack your opponent? mitt romney would have done the exact same thing. i am confident. and any leader would have. so, to say that mitt romney wouldn't have, i mean, is politicizing what an event that all americans applauded enormously. >> okay. i want to bring you back when you have some time in the next couple of weeks. you kn...

20 years or so. so, i wouldn't use biden as a bellwether. but i would use any president of the united states, given that information, would have done the same thing but i give great credit to the president. the point is though, do you use that in political campaigns to attack your opponent? mitt romney would have done the exact same thing. i am confident. and any leader would have. so, to say that mitt romney wouldn't have, i mean, is politicizing what an event that all americans applauded enormously. >> okay. i want to bring you back when you have some time in the next couple of weeks. you kn...