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>> we're going to stop this interview, there's going to be several other interviews we conduct with you. >> the debriefing process means severing all ties with the gang member's affiliation. >> i'm a drug habit. whatever i have to do to support my drug habit. >> the sentence i'm on right now, three strike case. i'm doing life for a $20 bag of meth. it was like i had to establish myself in order to survive basically, and one aspect of doing that was to associate myself with a gang, a prison gang. a strong prison gang, which was the aryan brotherhood, it's something you don't just grab on to, yo...

>> there's one building set aside for inmates who are requesting protective custody. the inmate has to notify us, he has to request to be placed in protective custody. from that point we ask him to go ahead and draw up or write his autobiography, detailing his involvement with the gangs from the street to the county jails to the prisons, and back out to the street. anything he's been involved in, anything he's witnessed. everything. right now there's quite a few inmates that are dropping out. you know, they're realizing there's no future in these gangs. >> because gang dropouts become immediat...

It on your shoe somewhere. you give it to the individual, it gives them gangrene. >> we're going to stop this interview, there's going to be several other interviews we conduct with you. until be complete the process and send you to the next phase. >> the debriefing process means severing all ties with the gang member's affiliation. offering relief for many inmates. the process is irreversible and not all are happy with the decision. >> i'm a drug habit. whatever i have to do to support my drug habit. >> the sentence i'm on right now, three strike case. i'm doing life for a $20 bag of meth. it...

By myself, it finally popped in my head that, third, but unthinkable, you know, come this way as far as do the debriefing process. go out on program. >> and you feel comfortable with that decision? >> it's funny, i honestly i honestly believed that because the decision itself tore me up, it was tearing me up, and the few days that it was actually in my head and as i was writing the kite to the floor officer, it was tearing me up. i've been in some straight wars. i've been hit. i've been shot. i've been ran over, crowbarred. and i've done the exact same damage. and i can honestly say that that ...

All the corruption. i seen a lot of bad calls and innocent people getting hurt. and seeing too many people doing things they didn't want to do, being forced to do. it's like the higher you go up, the more you see. >> the debrief process takes months, sometimes even years. because the igi must verify the truth of an inmate's autobiography. >> for myself, back in 2001, when i was in county jail, they ordered me to hit my own uncle because he was a dropout. and then after that, that's when i got my little points, what they call points. they train us to do all that. >> how were you trained? >> you...