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Understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? >> basically i'm tired of doing other people's dirty work, of ordering people to do things that because -- for someone else's selfish reasons, when, in fact, it doesn't benefit me here nor there. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine, and i really didn't appreciate that. >> good enough for me. >> there's no guarantees. so it really has to come from within the inmate of him wanting to change who he is. and it was interesting to see these guys do this and put themselves through this process, knowing that, you know, they're dea...

>> just for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? >> basically i'm tired of doing other people's dirty work, of ordering people to do things that because -- for someone else's selfish reasons, when, in fact, it doesn't benefit me here nor there. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine, and i really didn't appreciate that. >> good enough for me. >> there's no guarantees. so it really has to come from within the inmate of him wanting to change who he is. and it was interesting to see these guys do this and put themselves through this process, knowing that, yo...

A gang inside a prison. and in order to do that, there's a whole debriefing process they have to go through. and it basically entails the inmate coming in and confessing everything's he's done with the gang and sometimes even, you know, throwing some people under the bus and confessing against other people. so it's really a deadly thing for someone to do inside a prison. >> when inmates debrief, they must write a lengthy account of their criminal history both in and out of prison. the review process can take months. but if accepted, the inmates will be allowed to live in the safety of a protec...

Make you believe this, it's not true. just because one of their family members were a part of it. i seen too many innocent people targeted that had nothing to do with the gang life. >> once a gang member decides to quit, he can leave the shu in one of two ways. remain inactive for six years, or drop out altogether. to drop out, inmates must go through a debriefing process which has three missions, first, to determine their sincerity to leave the gang. second, to identify the people who might be a threat to them, since leaving a gang is considered treason. and third, to gather information about...

A whole debriefing process they have to go through. and it basically entails the inmate coming in and confessing everything's he's done with the gang and sometimes even, you know, throwing some people under the bus and confessing against other people. so it's really a deadly thing for someone to do inside a prison. >> when inmates debrief, they must write a lengthy account of their criminal history both in and out of prison. the review process can take months. but if accepted, the inmates will be allowed to live in the safety of a protective custody unit and be granted many more privileges tha...