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Do you believe that first up? >> in many ways, yes. let me say this. i don't think it's a spor yal fashion. i think it is more nuance than that. journalists of products in the culture they work and reports that lien left and reporters have i'd lodge yal bents a well. so it's not surprising to me they would be sympathetic from the white house about the debt issue. >> bill: i don't think they all meet at key west and this is how we decide we're going to help with president obama. this is more disturbing. on march 6th an email was sent out that smeared me as homophobic and anti-gay because we con...

President obama. do you believe that, first off? >> well, in many ways, yes. but let me say this, i don't think it's in a conspirator yal fashion. i think the situation is more nuanced than that. journalists are a product of the culture that they work and most news rooms are reporters who lean left and journalists coming from journalism schools and have ideological bents as well. it's not surprising that many reporters are sympathetic to a narrative from the obama white house about the debt issue. >> bill: i don't think it's a giant conspiracy that they meet in key west and say this is how we'...

And the idea that we're passing on $16 trillion, $17 trillion, this is representative of our generation, jon. this is representative of who we are, what we're passing on to the next generation. you know, none of us should stand by idly in thinking about what it is they're about to embrace. it's not worthy of our generation or theirs. so this whole debt issue, i think, is going to drive the younger generation like wars of the past have driven earlier generations. i was on a college campus not far from here recently. and the whole notion of debt and what they're about to be handed i think is a r...

>> it's, you know, the i mean the people who really don't like children are the people that are saddling children with a tremendous debt. i mean, the president is stealing from their piggy banks? >> well, exactly. i mean, this is borrowing enormous amounts of money that our children are going to have to pay back. and our children are going to have to see the disaster of an economy that shrinks as a result of this heavy debt. we're not meeting our responsibility of paying our bills. we're not meeting our responsibility of paying the things that we want to consume and we're moving it on to our c...

>> it's, you know, the i mean the people who really don't like children are the people that are saddling children with a tremendous debt. i mean, the president is stealing from their piggy banks? >> well, exactly. i mean, this is borrowing enormous amounts of money that our children are going to have to pay back. and our children are going to have to see the disaster of an economy that shrinks as a result of this heavy debt. we're not meeting our responsibility of paying our bills. we're not meeting our responsibility of paying the things that we want to consume and we're moving it on to our c...