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Debt number, that's such a phony number. you've got to net out intragovernmental debt, $16 trillion which is still a big number. but then you've got to compare it. you want to compare it to that debt compared to wealth or debt service compared to gdp. when you look at debt to wealth, we've had an increase in wealth in this country. the federal reserve numbers, an inkrooes in wealthnist first quarter, almost $5 trillion increase and swamping any increase in debt you could look at. you know, from my standpoint i'm much happier when an economy goes pro-growth and the wealth of the country rises r...

Are here. >> the big story -- yesterday we had great economic news. we had the lowest number who applied for unemployment insurance claims in 25 years. the revision upward of the economic numbers for the fourth quarter, just short of 3% growth. this economy is doing really well. >> it is. they also sold $300 billion in debt, the highest figures since the great recession. >> that's the big issue for trump. can he start to bring that debt number down? i agree with you on that, too, john. that's a problem. >> stephen moore, we agree on a lot. appreciate it. bright blue water flowing from the fa...

Debt. is president trump really going to veto that over border wall funding? i don't think so. just to add to your previous fact check, he said he paid for this by tax regular miing remit goods across the border. he's not doing those things either. he's not fulfilling the campaign promise. >> isn't that growing debt something the president touches? you can say trillion, billion or gazillion and most people aren't actually affected by it because they feel like it's abstract. that growing debt number, president trump has had a career of massive amounts of debt and it never seemed to faze him. if...

To you guys. >> thanks a lot, elizabeth. >> thanks elizabeth. >> thanks. >> now that we have this debt deal in place. it was amazing this week because of all sorts of back payments that we were supposed to have paid. the national debt just ballooned like overnight. >> like $329 billion just walloped. >> in one day. >> in one day. so now we have officially gone over $17 trillion is the new marker that we have hit. we don't have really a debt ceiling in place. we keep talking about this debt ceiling, but there really isn't a debt ceiling in place. it's like an artificial idea of the debt ceiling...

Just to the lawmakers on the hill but to the president behind us, that that attention has only increased as americans see the debt number top 16.4 trillion. >> they care about it. you had a "washington post" editorial the other day talking about how president obama needs to get entitlement spending under control and if he doesn't those programs are going to be in major trouble in the coming years. it's just a statement of fact, it's not a matter for opinion. and yet, you know, there's been very little leadership on that issue in washington. some have taken a shot eight, paul ryan took a shot a...