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one-termer. the vibe was bad enough this week. the top obama campaign strategist sent a memo to reporters noting that the president's support from the democratic base is strong. the same cannot be said of independents. 54% disapprove of how he's doing his job. things can change between now and november 2012. the more immediate question is whether president obama has the political capital to sell his jobs plan to the public and push it through congress. joining us now, the number two democrat in the senate, senator dick durbin. thank you so much for being here. and let's just start ...

He shows up on "meet the press" with this chart and here is what he has to say about the future. >> what matters is we try to fix the country's problems. let me just show you. this is the debt the cbo says we'll have, giving our children a lower standard of living. our plan pays the debt off. so we really believe we need to own up to the fact that the country is on an unsus tainl path and we've got to do something to fix this. >> you know, there's a lot of angles there. there's a few different colors in there. charts, don't you love charts? one thing about charts. somebody shows up with charts...

What matters to me is we fix the country's problems. this is the debt the cbo says we're going to have. we're giving our children a lower standard of living. our plan pays the debt off. we believe we need to own up to the fact that the country is on an unsustainable path and we've got to do something to fix this. >> but you're the budget chairman and you have your charts, i understand -- >> i have more. >> i know you do. but you also have a reality. you heard david plouffe say this is not going to pass. it might pass the house, it won't pass the senate and certainly not become law. is this goi...

Country's problems. this is the debt the cbo says we're going to have. we're giving our children a lower standard of living. our plan pays the debt off. we believe we need to own up to the fact that the country is on an unsustainable path and we've got to do something to fix this. >> but you're the budget chairman and you have your charts, i understand -- >> i have more. >> i know you do. but you also have a reality. you heard david plouffe say this is not going to pass. it might pass the house, it won't pass the senate and certainly not become law. is this going to be a campaign document? >> ...

Bush and to john mccain, mark mckinnen, was quoted in "time" magazine saying the following about your budget outline. i want to put it on the screen. "it will completely transform the fiscal debate. it will either be the brilliant blaze that illuminates republican courage or roaring fire that immolate the party in a spectacular political suicide." how's that for choices? we've heard this before. >> i've heard this before. it didn't really matter to me. what matters to me is we fix the country's problems. this is the debt the cbo says we're going to have. we're giving our children a lower stand...