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Markets and economy will sentient for him and give them another four years in office. this next gentleman is trying to stop it. he is among three republicans challenging the president for the republican nomination. former governor of south carolina, former congressman as well, mark sanford. good to have you. >> pleasure to be with you. >> neil: governor, three president referred to your challenge, congressman joe wals walsh, you are the three stooges, badly failed candidates. what did you think? >> i think that's what elections are about. that's what the voters ultimately decide in these equat...

The fact of the matter is, what the government should do, which it won't because i have never believed the government is intelligent, but what the government should do is extend the average maturity of the debt out to take term of the rate and lock it in. if you lock it in, my great grandchildren won't have a debt problem. >> neil: well, you're a billionaire. >> three generations of shirt sleeves. when you go through that maturity process, the fact of the matter is, we've been going the other way in the last number of years taking advantage, if you will, of the politicses taking advantage of d...

Sources come to the aid of transportation and infrastructure, so there are fundamental disagreements but i think you're right. there's a lot of theatrics involved with this as well. neil: burt, i talk to a lot of trump supporters who argue you're forgetting the silent vote out there, that didn't say they were going to support one way or the other donald trump, and obviously, it may be the industry all state that did get the election in his favor, they point to elections we've seen in australia and india, where pro business counted in some parties one in the case of india, one big so they say i...

You're going to forgive this conduct and especially when you make a big deal. if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk. >> thank you, guys, very much. just in, a new cnn k file investigations discovered past views from beto o'rourke about the government, debt problem and spending. fascinating new reporting about the relationship between president trump and deutsche bank. how he received a number of loans, how he lost them and what investigators may be interested in hearing. we'll be right back. there's little rest for a single dad, and back pain made it hard to sleep and get up on t...

To look at $22 trillion, could be so much worse after the election. charles: it's not, though, the revenues are there. we are bringing in more money, we typically bring in more money when the economy is on fire but the spending is where it never gets curbed. >> we are not at the point of no return yet. charles: we're not? >> no. this is one of the strongest economies so our gdp can grow faster than other economies which can help the problem. but that said, getting to the original problem, even these democrat plans could solve the debt problem if they were like you know what, we want to fix the...