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Pour any gas line on this fire. they know we're in worse position than we are. the chinese have a worse debt problem. their political system is sort of meant to cover up the problems. democracies always expose them. chinese know how fragile they are. i think they're actually going to be a lot better as we get closer and closer to the real date of the crisis. jenna: it will be interesting to see how the tone changes. you've been taking a look at the conversation that's happening in asia about the united states and i saw two things i would like to ask you about. you say that the conversation in ...

Willing to negotiate, which is how these kinds of disputes are always settled. >> is the house conference united, steve? >> no, no, when i talk to republicans, there is incredible diversity of opinion, and i think when you try to decide who is to blame for this shutdown, you can say the republicans wanted it. i think that's unfair. i think it's fair to say some of the republicans misjudged their opponents. they assumed the democrats would cave. they were wrong. when i talk to republicans, the republican who, to me, seems to have the best notion of what is on the democrats' mind, believe it or ...

Firm until harry reid and president obama are actually willing to negotiate, which is how these kinds of disputes are always settled. >> is the house conference united, steve? >> no, no, when i talk to republicans, there is incredible diversity of opinion, and i think when you try to decide who is to blame for this shutdown, you can say the republicans wanted it. i think that's unfair. i think it's fair to say some of the republicans misjudged their opponents. they assumed the democrats would cave. they were wrong. when i talk to republicans, the republican who, to me, seems to have the best n...

United, and they wanted to hold firm until harry reid and president obama are actually willing to negotiate, which is how these kinds of disputes are always settled. >> is the house conference united, steve? >> no, no, when i talk to republicans, there is incredible diversity of opinion, and i think when you try to decide who is to blame for this shutdown, you can say the republicans wanted it. i think that's unfair. i think it's fair to say some of the republicans misjudged their opponents. they assumed the democrats would cave. they were wrong. when i talk to republicans, the republican who,...

Our nation's health care problems. because if really the problem is debt and people worried about obama care because we're going to go bankrupt and woe have $17 trillion in debt. you guys know all the talking points. but it's true. we have a debt problem. but the debt problem was here before obama care, obama care made it much worse by throwing more people onto medicaid. and medicare is going broke for our seniors. so some of us, myself, senator coburn, paul ryan, senator byrd, we actually put out where every american -- a plan where every american would have health care. every american would ...