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Regret think -- they now have apologized or regret their position and regret their position. the thing i think chris is right about -- >> the central thing here i'm writing about is that is what was sold to us! >> chris, let john finish his sentence. he is trying to agree with you. go ahead. >> there is a tradition. joe, you made the point that democratics presidents haven't gone off and into a cave after they retire but the truth is bill clinton didn't spend his post-presidency attacking george w. bush and george w. bush has not spent his post-presidenting attacking barack obama. >> would you...

This cheney script. >> i thought it was fascinating. >> you've been wanting to get to this cheney strip a long time. they will love this on npr. >> i'm wondering what chris thinks. white house press secretary jay carney marked his final day at the podium with rebuke of the previous administration. so a reporter basically paraphrased what dick cheney said in his latest sort of roll out of his new organization with hays daughter and made comments about this administration and so jay carnin was asked about that. easement rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so...

Sectarian war right now? think about it. if we creep into this war that is bad for the president. he shouldn't sneak into this war a few military advisers here and find ourselves fighting for baghdad. under what moral authority are we on the shia side against the sunni side? that is what i'd like somebody to answer. >> that is the question right now that we have to ask. which is what do we do now? conservatives got it wrong in '03 in the biggest of ways. liberals got it wrong this '07. apparently president obama got it wrong when he said we were leaving iraq stable and sovereign iraq in 2011. ...

America -- to world peace? i mean, i'm not saying they didn't get it all wrong. they got it all wrong. >> do you believe that? did you believe he was a threat to saddam hussein. >> i did. bill clinton in 1998 was passing resolutions saying we had to get saddam hussein how far power. go back and look at the words. all of our words are written down clearly what happened at that time. i'm just wondering whether we should not just focus on dick cheney as the sinner of evil in the singular puppet master here, chris. >> well, i think he was. >> there you go. >> everyone's record where they stood on ...

By 2016 disagreed with dick cheney and condoleezza rice and colin powell disagreed with dick cheney but debate continues. >> what is the debate? >> i could sit here and go over and over again and we could go crazy and i'm sure they are doing it on another cable news network about barack obama saying he would leave it a stable and sovereign iraq. as your father said last week, we could go back and point fingers and say you're not allowed to talk because you got it wrong in 2003 or 2007 or 2011 or who what others are doing and say we got to come together and do this right. >> if you were to choo...