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Do you think of using an emergency to get what you want? >> let's just speak at a practical matter. if the president sneezes, somebody is going to file suit in the ninth circuit court to say that it's unconstitutional. so if the president declares that he wants to use in a declaration process, money for the southern border, it's going to be tied up in court. whatever we say about future implications, it will not be effective because of the inevitable lawsuit. again, that's why i think we need another mechanism and that's why i think we don't need to declare emergency, we can use this asset for...

The test in this initial 24 hour period? >> well, i really want to commend the fema leadership in particular their communications have been very strong. no one in homeland security in the middle of a hurricane which we are still in and certainly we'll see a lot of flooding the next couple days would say so far so good especially that now that we have our first fatality. but in terms of the surge of resources that occurred before the leaning in, fema's me motto is go big, go fast, bring stuff in quickly, unlike what they did in hurricane katrina, you are starting to see some of the consequences...