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It would result in trouble on their hands. >> so the penalty will be taken out of the tax refund. and the administration needs to sign up 5 million more to meet the goal of 7 million. >> thank you for setting that up for us. >> there is no magic number. the key to ren roll people and have a exchange. >> secretary of health and human services, that would be 7 million by march. >> it is ongoing strong market. >> so that is the president's economic advisor down playing the goal of 7 million by march. >> now critics say the white house is trying to move the goal post. la rs larson. and rosen berg....

I'm sure they'd be shouting it from the rooftops, and they're not. >> all right. guy benson, always great to speak with you. see you again next week. thanks so much. >> thank you, gretchen. >> as always, we want to hear from you in this new year. do you think the president's hitting the reset button here? and most importantly, if he is, will it work? go to my facebook page. you can weigh in there as always. we'll read your comments at the end of the show. well, new details on a deadly high-rise fire. did you see this video? look at that. that sent flames shooting out of a 20th story window, ...

An emergency. we are responding money. we need to put it in the budget and not pretending as you say it is like a hurricane or unforeseen act of god. >> it sounds like if you listen to chuck shumer, democrats, they plan to use it in the midterm election. they plan to use this issue and talk about income inquality and this is exhibit a according to democrats. >> this is a prequell. you will so this rolled out and what the president will talk about when he has the state of the union dress. war on the poor and income inequality and all of that that surrounded the central theme of his president so...

>> one of the issues the president's going to try and tackle now in 2014 is what he deems income inequality. i want to bring a very important chart that shows what's happened to middle-class people since obama was inaugurated. look. 2009, median income, $55,958. five years later, november of 2013, $52,163. david, is the president presenting a false argument, at least under his administration? because middle-class people are doing worse under his administration. >> for a variety of reasons. let's just start with you can't blame obama for everything, but five years into a recovery shows you that...

welcome back. i'm randi kaye. thanks for starting your day with us. back to the top story. jerry sandusky has been found guilty on 45 of 48 charges related to the sexual abuse charges of ten young boys. the crowd gathered, cheered the verdict. they watched as sandusky was brought out in handcuffs and put in the back of a police car. okay. that's what happened outside. jean casarez was inside the courtroom when the verdict was read one by one. what was it like in there? what was jerry sandusky doing as the guilty verdict was read? >> reporter: he walked into the courtroom. he had one ...