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Process forward that will have open hearings, you'll be able to read the transcripts of the depositions, there will be due process for the president and his lawyer and also a process to get the evidence to the house judiciary committee. obviously the devil is in the details did you what is your response. >> i just found out this about thre -- about this recently myself. i agree, the devil is in the details. and i think it is premature because i think we have oversight to do here in congress and haven't exhausted all of those capabilities. d i think that could be done through the current rules ...

Sprawling and less is more and not necessarily putting every objection to the way president trump has comported himself into it but she did not commit to a specific time frame about when they move to the next stage much less move an impeachment inquiry to the floor itself. >> as a journalist i'm happy about the fact that we'll have open hearings instead of behind closed doors and see the transcript depositions. more sunlight is good for the process. >> right. and absolutely. and this is not just a legal proceeding. the depositions were part of getting everything on the record and there has to ...

And the republicans are seeing they have to migrate to the substance and the president said let's talk about the substance and the process. but the republicans have to defend the position that the quid pro quo is not an impeachable offense and where they had to go to and where the substance will go. the challenge is that the white house continues to not cooperate and that adds another front to the battle that republicans will have to fight on. not just the substance, but also now adding themselves a process argument they have to push back on. >> this might be in a way bad news for republicans ...

>> and there have been republicans sitting on the committees -- >> oh, sure. >> behind closed doors but this does rob the white house and republicans of this talking point that the process is illegitimate and nancy pelosi is calling their bluff and saying you want to focus on the substance of the allegations, let's have that conversation and bring the witnesses out in the open. let's bring the transcript of the depositions out for public consumption. democrats feel confident, i think, based on the former and current career diplomats who have come forward on capitol hill and testified under oat...

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