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That's not on the president that's on the national archives to sort that material out. >> what do you make of that, preet? they're pointing the finger at everybody but themselves, obviously. >> that's standard operating procedure for the former president and the people around him. on the notion they declassify this information before he left the white house and before the documents were transported to mar-a-lago, interesting point. where's the evidence of that? where's the evidence he followed the protocols and the procedures for declassifying information. where's the evidence that the documen...

Both domestically and internationally, the threats toward taiwan of course. what i see happening here is an innovation from the biden administration. something we saw before russia, before putin invaded ukraine. which is declassifying information to warn the american people, to warn american businesses about what is happening. and i think it is fantastic. i think that we need to know what they're doing so that we could be vigilant. and we don't have to overreact. we don't want to return to the cold war and accusing every american that talks to every chinese business as being a traitor. that wo...

Investigation that -- into an investigation that lasts longer than an investigation, and i would be shocked, shocked if there is one criminal conviction in this entire thing. but there will be a lot of headlines. >> oh, yeah. >> and there are a lot of people making assumptions that are going to look really foolish months from now but they don't care because they're just gaslighting and they will just continue. >> and it is an effort to change the subject from the investigation into january 6th. that's another element of the story. tom winter, over the last 30 minutes or so we've heard a lot. w...

Allegations a tech executive and tech company used what was originally lawful access into government servers, but to gain information and to use it for an unlawful purpose. >> again, the special counsel durham makes no charge of illegal wire tapping here. first, as we mentioned the word infiltrate does not appear in the durham court filing. ratcliffe admits the tech executive had lawful access to the data. lastly, he claims the data was used for unlawful purposes but the fbi was being alerted to possible conflicts between trump and russia at a time donald trump was saying this. >> russia, if y...

What were they doing? why did they send this letter? >> they said that they, first of all, paid attention to what mika referenced which is the attorney general's filing in january and some of the filings that the attorney general says they've come up with in the course of their civil investigation. on top of that they said they had their internal investigation and received information from inside the company and outside the company that led to them making this decision. they said they have a non-waiveable conflict of interest with the trump organization which could be a potential problem sayin...