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S.e.a.l., 20 years in the navy, there was a core of who you were deep down inside, but you had all these disguises layered on sop of it. so no one knew the real you? >> no one ever met the real me. >> although the people that you served with -- >> never. >> you're in this incredibly secretive community. you're in this masculine military community, the navy s.e.a.l.s. >> yes. >> so that's got to add another layer to it. >> a huge layer. it was like that onion. you peel that back and you have as many layers of the onion as you can. but deep down inside the middle is where my female persona was h...

>> so for 20 years as a navy s.e.a.l., 20 years in the navy, there was a core of who you were deep down inside, but you had all these disguises layered on sop of it. so no one knew the real you? >> no one ever met the real me. >> although the people that you served with -- >> never. >> you're in this incredibly secretive community. you're in this masculine military community, the navy s.e.a.l.s. >> yes. >> so that's got to add another layer to it. >> a huge layer. it was like that onion. you peel that back and you have as many layers of the onion as you can. but deep down inside the middle is ...

Community, the navy s.e.a.l.s. so that's got to add a whole other layer to it. >> huge layer. it's kind of like that onion, the skin of the onion, peel that back and keep having as many layers of the onion as you can but deep down inside the middle of the onion is where my female persona was hidden. it was through so many different layers and through so many purges and through so many of those little disguises that i was able to just keep it totally pretty much turned off. >> so for 20 years as a navy s.e.a.l., 20 years in the navy, there was a core of who you were deep down inside but you had...

>> you're also in this incredibly secretive community. you're in this incredibly masculine traditionally thought of as masculine military community, the navy s.e.a.l.s. so that's got to add a whole other layer to it. >> huge layer. it's kind of like that onion, the skin of the onion, peel take back and keep having as many layers of the onion as you can but deep down inside the middle of the onion is where my female persona was hidden. it was through so many different layers and through so many purges and through so many of those little disguises that i was able to just keep it totally pretty m...

Guard. so the purge is something that probably every cross dresser and transgender and everybody else, it's like a reset point where okay, i'm not doing this ever again. >> you're also in this incredibly secretive community. you're in this incredibly masculine traditionally thought of as masculine military community, the navy s.e.a.l.s. so that's got to add a whole other layer to it. >> huge layer. it's kind of like that onion, the skin of the onion, peel take back and keep having as many layers of the onion as you can but deep down inside the middle of the onion is where my female persona was...