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Snowden. otherwise if it was bush they wouldn't embrace a like that. it will hurt in the long run. when the people on the left start playing the cowardly sciolous race card they have some plausibility, now, right or wrong they have it just the way that the right support for the iraq war has hurt our ability to have a strong muscular foreign policy. this is going to hurt, you know, on social issues, i believe. >> i didn't know he was such a deep thinker in the profile did i on you, i did not know you had such profound. >> i thought you were talking about bundy. you are talking about mcguirk. >>...

Snowden. otherwise if it was bush they wouldn't embrace a like that. it will hurt in the long run. when the people on the left start playing the cowardly sciolous race card they have some plausibility, now, right or wrong they have it just the way that the right support for the iraq war has hurt our ability to have a strong muscular foreign policy. this is going to hurt, you know, on social issues, i believe. >> i didn't know he was such a deep thinker in the profile did i on you, i did not know you had such profound. >> i thought you were talking about bundy. you are talking about mcguirk. >>...

>> wait a minute. >> i would give him $5,000 right now if he quit. >> oh, you can punch him, that's okay. >> i will later. >> you guys are supposedly friends, too. you have time to work out here. charles, you're the business guy on the panel. >> i don't know what program you're on, because they paid me $5 to take the dave hasselhoff cd. are you nuts? if you're afraid to fire lazy workers, get the snail from the geico commercials. pay me 2,5$2,500, give me a lisf your deadbeat workers and i'll do it. >> it's about weeding out workers that aren't happy. >> there are plenty. we have high unemploy...

>> phil is probably one of the most intelligent guys i've ever known, deep thinker, deep thinker, it's funny, i said the word gregarious at one point. even though he could be gregarious, it was in a small group, he could crack you up. he would switch over and be a deep thinker that really philosophiesed down deep. >> he was a guy that always had good advice for us. we would go to him when we needed to talk about things, we're very close, and he was an incredible artist, a great father to his boys, and, you know, best friend to his sister and james and i. and we just want everybody to know that...

We've got a lot of people praying for us. and church and family and friends, they're helping us through this, and thank goodness we had two good parents that instilled that in us, you know, a belief in god and that's really what we're trying to get out there to everyone, that people need to have god in their lives, because everybody's going to go through difficult situations, and that's what's getting us through this right now. >> well, you know, you talked about wanting people to know your brother, what's he like? >> phil is probably one of the most intelligent guys i've ever known, deep thin...