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They did win a default judgment against several members when they didn't show up in april 2009 at a court hearing. since that time, other attorneys from within the department have said the justice department ultimately dropped the case, dismissed charges against those individuals and some within the department, including christian adams, say there are politics at play. he is going to testify before the u.s. civil rights commission. he is the only witness. they are slated in three hours. he will be grilled about what he said publicly, what he knew in the justice department. he has made strong e...

Says the legal standard for these cases is very high. there's been a total of three prosecutions of these types of cases since the beginning. and the doj, reasonable people can differ and it had every right to yang this case even though it was won own a default judgment. your response. >> everybody who practices law, i know megyn you practice as well. everybody knows once you have a default judgment you offer a proffer to the judge of the evidence that you would have offered at trial. in this case when a defendant does not respond you can't claim that the case has a high burden, nor can you cl...

Pursued. >> there was no doubt in anybody's mind at least not the people who were working hard on the case there was no doubt. megyn: you bring the case against the four defendants, the two guys we see on calm rat party and head of the party and what happens next? >> well, you cruise along. the defendants didn't even appear, they didn't even answer they just ignored the charges. megyn: they didn't bother it to defend it in any way. >> they didn't show up for court, they didn't file any papers, they didn't do anything. megyn: you get something that is called a default judgment because they didn...

Him uniformly was that he is the real deal. is he a legitimate lawyer. is he a very well respected lawyer and for him to be doing this is as extraordinary as it seems. >> laura: megyn, what did you find out about who set the standard, set the rules here in place for how this case would be handled? he came on my radio show this morning i was trying to say is it coming from eric holder. he wouldn't quite say. eric holder is the guy in charge. is there a reason to think that he was, you know, setting down this new approach? >> well, two things. he wouldn't go that far. he said first of all with r...

Him uniformly was that he is the real deal. is he a legitimate lawyer. is he a very well respected lawyer and for him to be doing this is as extraordinary as it seems. laura: megyn, what did you find out about who set the standard, set the rules here in place for how this case would be handled? he came on my radio show this morning i was trying to say is it coming from eric holder. he wouldn't quite say. eric holder is the guy in charge. is there a reason to think that he was, you know, setting down this new approach? >> well, two things. he wouldn't go that far. he said first of all with resp...