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Emergency, that that's going to be the only way he will be able to get this. eric: when you are in those meetings, do the democrats specifically for example -- in 2006, they voted for including senator schumer, voted for the keep america safe act, defense act, which laid about 654 miles. this is specific 237 miles in an area where it's been said you have to have some barriers, along the rio grande valley. what is the response from the democrats, if they are asked why did you vote then but now you're so against what the experts are saying is needed right now? not a whole wall. it is a fence. it...

It's now a fence, it's not a wall. 234 miles, i mean, it's the most sensitive parts la raid doe, the rio -- la laid doe, as well as near yuma. in light of the democrats were in support of the 2006 defense act which was basically the same thing? >> we already have, we already have. but now the president is negotiating in reverse. he's gone back now to $5.7 billion for the wall that he described earlier. so, look, we support border security. we're americans. we want safe borders. we have a disagreement as to how we get it done, and we should never, as i said, never shut the government down and t...

He would do something. >> what have you seen? have you seen it cartels? have you stopped drugs yourself? >> yeah, yeah. i worked cartel operations on the border. we'll go to tucson. my guys are in tucson now. i worked in mcallen, texas. we would watch one group come across the border. border patrol would react and the other group would come across. it's like an be benny hill show. we have to have a wall in certain areas and we need technology on the border to secure it. >> the democrats started the defense act in 2006. they were ready for a fence back then. thank you for your service. >> god b...

Out of the monies that were available for the department of home land security. >> congressman you mentioned about the number of illegals who have melted tkhru the wall so to speak. snuck through the fencing that is already there. that would seem to indicate whatever we build we replace the fencing there now. that makes me think that's more than $5 billion. right. >> $5 billion is the down payment on the 25 billion-dollar figure the president has identified he will need in order to provide the operational security. >> this is the first time, sorry i wasn't clear -- that we talked about replaci...

Take a look at it. the president side of things, going for the jugular when it comes to this message. watch. ♪ >> martha: he said he wished he had killed more cops. that was his regret on his way to prison. what do you think of that? >> it's a tough attic, it's a tough message and a tough issue but the fact remains, when you have a party where -- and i'm not saying the entire democratic party is here but without a doubt the democratic party has moved a good deal from when it was largely in favor of, say, the defense act of 2006. largely in favor of deporting illegals and having an immigratio...