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Stays on his financial disclosure statement but not all of them. the question is was that done intentionally to conceal the quid pro quo or not? i think the defense argument was well, i didn't want to bring any attention to the friendship to save the doctor friend -- i don't think that is a very strong argument in terms of why he didn't put all the gifts on his financial disclosure. >> jon: if they are just innocent, why not put them on the forms? >> completely agree. i think that charge is one of the more black and white charges. did you list it or did you not list it? you could say well, i f...

>> sandra: what is the defense argument? >> they claim number one zarate did not steal the gun. he found it on a pier. the bullet ricocheted off the pavement. the gun, they argue, fired on its own when zarate grabbed and stepped on it and he threw it in the water to make it stop firing. >> if he didn't know the object he touched had a gun in it, then he does not bear criminal responsibility. >> the gun was stolen out of the car of a federal agent four days earlier. if it had not been for his negligence kate would be alive today according to the defense. >> bill: next hour house republicans set...

That the police framed o.j. >> how is it with all of this evidence against o.j. that he's set free? >> some of that stuff was planted, and when some of that was planted, what was and what wasn't? >> and how did mark fuhrman play a part in your decision when it came down to the verdict? >> quite a bit. because everything that he had anything to do with pretty much got thrown out. i knew he was dirty, because after a while, you get a sense of people. >> and do you truly believe that the police, the detectives, the criminologists, were as incompetent as the defense made them out to be? >> yeah, i...

Integrity. >> eric: they are saying that he is presumed innocent under the constitution. wendy, the defense argument, fantasy side is nothing in reality that he carried out. >> sometimes we look at -- and she made some good points. where's the balance? it's evidence and predisposition. those i think they give us a good idea as to what who are garlic at the sites and carry out these fantasies. very dangerous. what this meant basically dead was he was doing that research, but remember, all of the context surrounding what he did, including his own statement. lends credibility to the fact pattern ...

And was running the car and she said get back in the car. i think she was charged with involuntary manslaughter. how does that stick when you are just texting someone to commit suicide. >> that was part of the defense argument. she said there is not really a law against this. how does this fit? the story is these were two youths, she was 17, she was 18. they both had issues and a history of mental issues. she was basically intoxicated. she didn't have the ability to have that specific mindset. jesse: that defense didn't work very well. and i don't think there has been a case like this before. ...