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With this program in zurich this was crazy. i've been in law enforcement my entire life, all my friends were in law enforcement. we could not have been more opposed to this. death, disease, crime, corruption, was gonna skyrocket. he said i'm here today to tell you, zurich is a much better place to live. citizens of zurich voted to reup on that program. >> sean: we are not going to convince each other. >> it is a good dialogue this is something that needs to be talked about in this country. >> sean: back to my original question as my last question. on economic issues i agree with you. we have a...

This was crazy. i've been in law enforcement my entire life, all my friends were in law enforcement. we could not have been more opposed to this. death, disease, crime, corruption, was gonna skyrocket. he said i'm here today to tell you, zurich is a much better place to live. citizens of zurich voted to reup on that program. >> sean: we are not going to convince each other. >> it is a good dialogue this is something that needs to be talked about in this country. >> sean: back to my original question as my last question. on economic issues i agree with you. we have a slight deviation on some de...

>> i think as we have just lost john ray who is reporting right from the middle of things there. we got the gist of things and at this point at least things are peaceful in their protest and we will keep following things from bahrain today. mike mullen is leaving today for the region. the trip was scheduled months ago to discuss regional defense issues. >> if both sides can not agree, there is a real risk of a government shut down. white house correspondent joining me live from the post. mike? let's go through the latest developments. >> it ended at 5:00 this morning when house republicans pus...

We are responsible of bringing down the deficit. >> joining me now, norah o'donnell. reducing deficits, the focus. but we also know the president does not plan to cut spending with social security or raise the retirement age. progressives happy about that, republicans likely to take a swing at it. >> reporter: no doubt about that. as you reported, tamron, we've learned here at nbc news, the president is going to propose this five-year freeze on nonsecurity discretionary spending. that will mean cuts for people, a freeze. that's a big move certainly. then, when it comes to defense issues, the p...

This is not useless, trivial users. >> first i said he was an excellent journalist on defense issues, not the iraq war. i think the majority of people named in the e-mails i quite frankly have never heard of. there are a handful of them i know of. >> when we have a two-shot like this, does it mean andy is buzzing us collectively. >> i watched him crumble under budging. you crumbled. >> you were like an apple crumble. >> she watches your show religiously. >> and not even jewish. >> zeo, you say kim catrell has been playing the same role since "porky's." i think actually she started when the sil...