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And felt the toxicology was normal amounts that had nothing to do with the cause of death. three years later chief medical examiner included it in the cause of death, and the medical examiner for the family just recently said it was drowning but nobody said it's homicide. >> go ahead, steve, quickly. >> from a defense perspective this is exactly what they want to see is confusion. they want to see things that are going to create a loud of mystery about this case and, therefore, that means reasonable doubt. >> what we didn't get to talk to is the fact this guy has several convictions for fraud ...

And felt the toxicology was normal amounts that had nothing to do with the cause of death. three years later chief medical examiner included it in the cause of death, and the medical examiner for the family just recently said it was drowning but nobody said it's homicide. >> go ahead, steve, quickly. >> from a defense perspective this is exactly what they want to see is confusion. they want to see things that are going to create a loud of mystery about this case and, therefore, that means reasonable doubt. >> what we didn't get to talk to is the fact this guy has several convictions for fraud ...

I for one think while he may not have dragged the suv driver out of the car, he certainly was one of those who precipitated the attack. he's one of those that got these bikers access into the car. i think his role in really, really important in terms of the criminal activity that took place. >> you say investigators are looking at a lot of things. one of the things everyone on earth is looking at right now is this video. this vid yeo of him apparently smashing in the window of the suv. as a defense attorney, what do you do with a video like this. >> this is interesting. i don't agree with the ...

Neighborhood and talking on the shows and all, they -- there you were able to see who george zimmerman was from the defense perspective. so you know, the state was woefully inadequate in making trayvon martin the human being that he was. >> okay. we're going to talk a lot more about this case at the bottom of the hour. but i want to thank all of you for now. mark nejame, page pate, and jason johnson. thanks. >> thank you. don't miss "ac 360" tonight. you're going to hear more from juror b37 including what happened during deliberations. that's tonight on "ac 360." a blistering heat wave hit...

Was saying in the interview that it was very clear that from the very beginning, at the very introduction of all of the evidence, that they were -- they believed that story, that they believed zimmerman's approach. they used a lens, right? so when you're looking at the evidence, there is two ways to look at it. the people that believed in the defense, the people that believed in the prosecution, they heard the exact same evidence and they took it in differently. it's clear from what she was saying last night, the leps she used, she absolutely believed the defense perspective, so much so she wa...