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Bigger than a seth rogen movie and i know you know this. when they say a 9-11 style attack, if it opens up on december 25 and it's taken serious enough to affect our economy to the point where every major screen says we're not taking the risk and just saying this is just sony, considering the other private companies and how they can affect us and how they changed our behavior, absolutely take it serious. >> a movie that came out in 2004. >> they're gog rerun it. they said no, no, we don't want part of this either. so they backed out. >> the point -- that's the movie right there. you can watch ...

We're going to help, quote, modernize the ukrainian military. we're going to, quote, review our relationship with the russians. and the united kingdom's defense minister said as a reality, the europeans do not have the defense structure in place to take any kind of significant action. >> this is also a reminder of just how misconceived the pivot is and the idea that our main security crisis was likely to come in asia. we had no idea that we would be facing such a security crisis right in the heart of europe. you know, as dan was saying nato under obama has become allowed to become a holly shel...

Sails here. the head of nato said what are we going to do? we going to help modernize the ukrainian military. we are going to review our relationship with the russias. the united kingdom's defense minister said as a reality, the europeans do not have the defense structure in place to take any kind of significant position. >> this is how misconceived the pivot was. the security crisis was likely to come to asia. we had no idea we would face such a security crisis in the heart of europe. nato under obama has been allowed to become a hollow shell. defense spending in almost all the european count...

Columnist for "the washington post." and david corn is the washington bureau chief for mother jones magazine and an msnbc political analyst. i read your column this morning. i was impressed. but it does raise a couple questions. do we know that the chief, the boss, assad -- i don't even know what his title is -- of syria ordered the use of chemical weapons? do we know that? >> according to "the new york times" reporting, and i don't have independent confirmation of it, we do not have that information. the u.s. intelligence officials are confident that chemical weapons were used, that it was an...

Ordered the use of chemical weapons? do we know that? >> according to "the new york times" reporting, and i don't have independent confirmation of it, we do not have that information. the u.s. intelligence officials are confident that chemical weapons were used, that it was an attack way beyond anything syria has done in the past. >> do we know his defense structure, his military chiefs approved it? >> the attack was so broad that it had -- it was well coordinated. so the command structure, it couldn't have been done without the command structure knowing about it. >> what do you deal with the ...