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Branches and other parts of it. and until you hit the trigger and put it out in the country, you don't know what the consequences are. that's a big part of the risk. >> right. i understand why people would be fervently for it. this would cover 30 million people. that's a serious moral accomplishment. i lean against because it will not slow the health care cost. we spend 17% of our economy on health care. it will go up to 20, 25. all the stuff i think is more important, education, infrastructure, competitiveness with china, we won't have money for that. a lot of the deficit control is totally b...

And until you hit the trigger and put it out in the country, you don't know what the consequences are. that's a big part of the risk. >> right. i understand why people would be fervently for it. this would cover 30 million people. that's a serious moral accomplishment. i lean against because it will not slow the health care cost. we spend 17% of our economy on health care. it will go up to 20, 25. all the stuff i think is more important, education, infrastructure, competitiveness with china, we won't have money for that. a lot of the deficit control is totally bogus. 10 years of revenue to pay...

>> one of the concerns that i have just as a citizen is i don't know how this health care bill, given its current construct, lands eventually out there in terms of the cost and how it works. it strikes me at this point that it has some of the dna of a department of homeland security. it's got all of these wings and branches and other parts of it. and until you hit the trigger and put it out in the country, you don't know what the consequences are. that's a big part of the risk. >> right. i understand why people would be fervently for it. this would cover 30 million people. that's a serious mor...

But it was mcconnell who told reid i will not work to collect votes for this bill if you bring it to the floor. there has to be a genuineness here. republicans say they want deficit reduction, and deficit control, they vote against a deficit commission. i hope that president obama will use an exclusive order to create a commission in spite of what republicans say. you can't have it one day in the morning and have a different message in the afternoon. i think it has to be fair. democrats deserve some blame. republicans have to be honest too. >> it's like two guys fighting in the ocean to see wh...

It was grassley and baucus and hatch and schumer. that was the centerpiece of the stimulus bill, the jobs bill that worked through the senate. but it was mcconnell who told reid i will not work to collect votes for this bill if you bring it to the floor. there has to be a genuineness here. republicans say they want deficit reduction, and deficit control, they vote against a deficit commission. i hope that president obama will use an executive order to create a commission in spite of what republicans say. you can't have it one day in the morning and have a different message in the afternoon. i ...