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Rather than actually making new products. but the fact is that this is something of a diversion from the immediate problems facing the country, and a lot of this deficit debate is a false one because it's easily solved. you pay for it. you know, you go back to the clinton tax rates of the 1990s, that's $700 billion over ten years right there. you do some tax reform. i understand you can get another trillion out of that. and then you're spending, you know, a hundred billion a year in afghanistan. >> i guess -- hang on a second. is that your phone? >> no. >> you sure? >> yeah. >> hang on. is som...

Negotiations last week and what was notable is the president more or less bent over backwards not to bash speaker boehner. in pursuit of an ultimate deal. my question to you is, have you now changed that strategy is is there any concern that the president being so tough on the republican plan has in some way poisoned the well for negotiations that you guys seemed to want to have? >> i think we remain committed to finding the space where we can agree to agree that reasonable middle where we found a way to agree in december. we found a way to agree just these past few days. i think we're taking ...

Staff at the railroad, the congressional guys have been waving at the rain and the engineer and the president still has his hands full throttle on the spending lever causing us to prints dollars and further causing this kind of inflation. >>neil: and in the middle of this deficit debate as we look at the things that have moved up, this is going to make carrying the debt more expensive if not now, soon, in the form of higher rates and a nominal uptick makes that a huge mission. >>guest: a huge mission and you have to wonder if it is a policy choice on the part of the administration. if they are...

The democratic world view versus republican on taxes. whether you believe that the the taxpayers' wallet is supply a gold mine for more money or whether you believe that money given back to taxpayers is going to stimulate the economic growth we need to help everybody. i think that's going to continue to happen. i think right now, that many americans believe we're winning the public debate on this, which is that the government needs a dial and the way you stop government spending is to take more money away. >> this proves to you that the deficit debate is a fraud. an absolute fraud. i understan...

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