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Now it's, now it's like there's a party going on up here. okay. heck with revenue, heck with the, you know, constraining spending, so yes, i will remain a deficit hawk until i leave here. and i'm looking so forward to this tax reform debate because the one thing that hadn't been discussed is the $4 trillion in base broadeners that have to occur for this to be successful. and every lobbyist in the world is going to be up here fighting those. >> it's amazing in retirement how much democrats are coming up saying they're going to miss you. >> i told people if i knew they were going to say so many ...

Groups does it. but if it looks like we are adding one penny to the deficit, i am not going to be for it. i'm sorry. it's the greatest threat to our nation. greatest threat to our nation. it's like, chuck, we entered a party atmosphere here. everybody was fiscal hawk kind of, not really, but kind of up until the election. now it's like there is a party going on up here. okay. heck with revenues. heck with constraining spending. so, yes, i'll remain ha deficit hawk until i leave here. and i'm looking so forward for this tax reform. because one thing ha hasn't been discussed is the $4 trillion i...

Chris: let's get to the other issue you were discussing and i interrupted you and forgive me for that and that is the issue of cost because senate republican budget plan calls for a tax cut that is going to cost the treasury 1 and a half trillion dollars over the next ten years and some outside experts say that the plan that was unveiled this week actually will add $2 trillion to the debt over the next ten years. back when you were in congress, you were a deficit hawk, what happened, sir? >> i think the 2 trillion number is coming from the same organization that did not score dynamically -- ...

Had troops based in afghanistan. and when you leave office in 2019 -- >> yep. >> -- we're going to have troops in afghanistan. >> yep. >> when your successor contemplates a second or third term in the united states senate from tennessee, are we still going to have troops based in afghanistan? >> the entire gdp of afghanistan cannot support even their security forces. i'm talking about their own security forces. the likelihood of us having troops there, some level of troops. now, you know, what matters, chuck, is what are they doing? okay. what are those troops doing? but are we likely to have ...

If we are going to be neutral effect on distribution of the tax burden, it ought to be preobama and not post obama or do we have to enshrine what obama did in the tax code, i don't think so. paul: i'm with you on that one, senator and just about everything else but i want to ask you about the deficit charge because a lot of people are saying, hey, this is going to increase the deficit, there's no plan right now in the details to pay for that, finance the rate cuts, you're a spending hawk, been a deficit hawk, what do you make of that charge? >> well, first of all, well in the hell were the peo...