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Good to have you on. your amendment to representative paul ryan's plan failed. as i stated, 77-347 today. were you surprised that this plan didn't gain a little more traction with the democrats. >> we feel we did well. we got 40% of the democratic caucus. we projected a vision of putting america back to work. we had infrastructure in that bill. we protected the medicare. we were proud of the budget. the fact is that we have to lead -- we have to show the way. and sometimes that means you're not going to get all of the support that you want. but you can never back off of what your values are. >...

>>guest: that's a great possibility. i sure hope so because there are a lot of them that are up for re-election in 2012. >> the current c.b.o. score says the health care bill will debate the deficit. however, the current score says it will. so democrats are saying, republicans are hypocrites on this issue because in a sense you will be increasing the deficit. >>guest: their numbers cannot be relied on. the high risk pools, like you said earlier, only cover a fraction of the people. here in colorado we have a grand total of 439 people in the federal high-risk pool out of a population of five mi...

When we are going to start looking at the longer term? and so i find the whole thing really disappointing and very perplexing. >> i'm with you. we're borrowing money from china to give it to the rich in a way that will not create jobs. what would you have done? what would you prescribe for the economy now not only to deal with the immediacy of the deficit issue, but also to transform the economy because we know every year we are less competitive, vis-a-vis our foreign competitors from china to india to brazil. what should we be doing? >> the thing that really struck me in the last couple of we...

Notion of maintaining a purist position. all throughout the midterm elections you heard the president talk about i will not extend the tax cuts for those above 250. that was the hard line position he took. republicans hard line position was -- >> there was an election. >> i get there was an election. when you hear republicans talk about principle, talk about this is where we stand, democrats are saying why did you give in? the reality is the white house blinked. republicans remained steadfast. that's just a reality. >> i do think this is a change of strategy. there's no question the first two ...