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Seriously despite the pain it could cause for about 160 million americans. >> this is a manufactured crisis. we don't have a short-term deficit problem. we have a jobs and growth problem and we have a faltering recovery. we should put off the sequester. put off this grand bargain. come back. let the bush tax cuts expire. make sure the middle class doesn't have to pavement the schif a manufactured media drama. >> laura: wow, can you say out of touch? joining us now from new york is maxwell a democratic strategist and guy benson the political editor for "town hall.com." okay. this is quite somet...

Office for four years now. >> we put those americans back to work. >> laura: i'm very confused none of it is is obama's fault but it is the tea party's fault. >> i didn't blame the tea party. >> laura, one thing i can't understand here is i can agree with katrina saying we have a job problem. how is raising taxes help? it doesn't make sense to me. if you say we don't have a short-term deficit problem. we have had 4 straight trillion-dollar deficits. at what point does that become a problem. >> half of that is because of the economic crisis. $600 billion of that is because of the economic crisi...

>> we put those americans back to work. >> laura: i'm very confused none of it is is obama's fault but it is the tea party's fault. >> i didn't blame the tea party. >> laura, one thing i can't understand here is i can agree with katrina saying we have a job problem. how is raising taxes help? it doesn't make sense to me. if you say we don't have a short-term deficit problem. we have had 4 straight trillion-dollar deficits. at what point does that become a problem. >> half of that is because of the economic crisis. $600 billion of that is because of the economic crisis. >> laura: what did the p...

Could cause for about 160 million americans. >> this is a manufactured crisis. we don't have a short-term deficit problem. we have a jobs and growth problem and we have a faltering recovery. we should put off the sequester. put off this grand bargain. come back. let the bush tax cuts expire. make sure the middle class doesn't have to pavement the schif a manufactured media drama. >> laura: wow, can you say out of touch? joining us now from new york is maxwell a democratic strategist and guy benson the political editor for "town hall.com." okay. this is quite something. we have been hearing fro...

Graham has to say over the weekend on "meet the press." >> the big chance for a big deal is that the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from becoming greece and save social security and medicare and to anybody listening to this program, i'll raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent this country from becoming greece. >> prevent this country from becoming greece. what is your reaction to that? >> absolute and utter nonsense. this country is not becoming greece. this country -- this country, f...