Saving for my daughter's college, will you forgive there loans? she said absolutely not. you have the education secretary as well. the white house is making the argument people need breathing room saying people should take out just after the student loan debt forgiven may have paid that back and say we are in a good economy, covid is essentially over especially when it comes to the border so that does not compute saying people are not in a position to pay that. >> for a guy who calls himself lunch bucket joe, it doesn't sound -- >> it's a solidification of the democratic party the party of the...