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And i ate it. and i feel sick to my stomach right now. it is the pork you don't eat. >> i didn't even see that estion here, when you think it is important enough to shut down the government in order to stop obama care -- >> i would do anything to shut down obama care. >> you think o-- >> no, but i think the delay option is a very, very good one, and i actually think that there are some democrats, in particular, ones that are in tough districts to win re-election in 2014, who would say you know what? if we want to do this right -- they could make a case for it. i'm for obama care -- i'm not say...

More time. there's no constitutional option, there is no delay option, there's no creative financial option. they have to act by the 2nd. >> it's a significant consequence that you're outlining here, that america's credit rating could be downgraded without a deal by august 2nd. >> and it's much worse than that. that itself would be very damaging because that would affect the value of all americans' savings, the capacity of businesses to borrow to put people back to work. remember, 80 million checks a month we write, including people who depend on those checks to go out and buy food to meet the...