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Clear to "the new york times" that part of the reason that the white house and the legal team continue to take this combative stance against the special counsel is partly because of public opinion. it's something that giuliani has said before even on cnn, this idea that if they go after the special counsel, it will sway republican opinion, keep the republicans in power in the house of representatives, and it will help president trump avoid impeevement. here's more from rudy giuliani to "the new york times," quote, nobody is going to consider impoochbment if public opinion has concluded. it's a...

>> a better word. >> i have seen that word more in headlines in the last 24 hours. where does this go from here? this spat between the fbi and the executive branch? >> the first thing is the president cannot simply replace the fbi director. he serves with a fixed term to protect him from things like this. he has been leaning on sessions trying to get the justice department to say hold on a second. this obama phone tapping at trump tower has no evidence to support it. >> but it was started by the tweets. who can put it out? who can stop this once and for all and say it did or did not happen? >>...

Senate majority leader harry reid has not yet commented on paul's new delay strategy, but it seems unlikely he'll put the audit the fed bill up for a vote. a vote on confirming janet yellen as the next head of the fed could take place as early as tomorrow, but it could also happen next week, bumping right up against the eggnog and mistletoe. joining us now is senior fellow of economic studies at the brookings institution, justin wolfers, who's also a professor at the university of michigan. justin, it's amazing you have time to be on the show given all the hats you wear. thank you for joining ...

I don't think our politics right now can have either side, quite frankly, getting in order to get something. we should just hope we push calamity off, get a budget that's sort of where we think it is in law. if we're going to remove sequestration caps, each side is going to have to give, each side is going to have to get. quite frankly, i don't think either side is hugely well positioned to both give and get. i think both sides of each party are going to find it hard to give even regardless of what they get. >> so you're effectively saying this has to be a delay strategy. >> this is a largely ...

Physical therapy -- tea party endorsed 14 and 12 of them lost in a bad economy. so you have got to win, if you want to dismantle obama care, you have got to win, and -- >> -- yeah. got to have. >> bill: cruz may be the guy to take the tea party up again. >> well, we will see. here is the deal though. we need to have a president who will sign a measure defunding, repealing, getting rid of and replacing obama care and until we have a president who is going to do that we are going to be. >> bill: that's three years away. >> that's why i favor a delay strategy. i think it is better for us to get a...