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Okay? asked about homelessness, like he was with sean hannity, and he can admit to it. he can be honest about it, and yet get out of it in a way where you know it is a problem everywhere, we are doing everything we can, i know it's wrong, bababa, he is a smooth talker and my concern about the american voter, the american electorate as they are not going to say, oh, i don't want my state, my country to be like california, they are going to say, he seems like such a nice guy, so good-looking, his wife is pretty, he's got nice kids, and that will make him, you know, manna from heaven. he could ge...

To get the speakership at times. so this is like, this is as difficult of a speaker election i think that we have probably seen in modern times. >> and then real quick, jake, on the dem side, right, the question marks here are around house speaker nancy pelosi as speaker, what have you heard on that front and the punchbowl has new reporting. >> nancy pelosi is not saying until november 30th or thereabouts, her aides say. she doesn't want to say anything until the house is officially called. all the votes are cast. and i think that is putting a lot of pressure from our sources that we talked to...

People don't have tattoos of pete buttigieg yet. >> what big number is he going to put out? we heard him tease around $20 million at a fund rare but we don't know what the real number is. >> it's good to be the incumbent, i think we can take that away as well. >> donald trump's numbers in that quarter are extraordinary. any doubt that he doesn't have a serious challenge, but if other folks had gotten in that might have taken a dent out of it. you've got to pay attention to both sides of the aisle, but a lot of money. this is going to be a very -- >> interesting, especially on the dem side, the...

Into the dem side and following trump into the 2020 re-elect, they're going with trump. the question is everyone else who is not with trump or on the far left. when do they get tired of this? when do they get tired of the blame of chicken and whom do they blame? that will determine who sort of caves first. >> so, scott, what is mitch mcconnell going to do? >> well, he needs something that could attract 60 votes and a presidential signature. i think the way mcconnell and trump could flip the script today is to go ahead and propose trade daca for the wall. i know democrats are saying, well, that...

Leading in terms right now on the dem side. we have new details i want to ask you about. according to "the washington post" white house officials had been pushing zinke to resign for weeks. "the new york times" saying zinke could face a roux mihumil firing and he didn't want to leave until he attended his christmas party on friday night where he had active lobbyists and donors. julian, i know you're chuckling because i don't know what to make of this. does this not fuel the criticisms against zinke? >> absolutely. zinke had become one of the embodiments of shady ethics at the cabinet level. wh...